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And it would be a brutal appraisal regardless of where the kid was going to play next.
And it would be a brutal appraisal regardless of where the kid was going to play next.
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Brutal scouting report on Renardo Sidney from the Nike Hoop Summit. |
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Posts: 70 04/14/09 10:28 AM |
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Steve4USC |
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Posts: 606 04/14/09 10:48 AM |
wouldn't it be ironic if he came to realize that he needed two years in College to get himself ready to be a success in the NBA.
After all Blake Griffin and James Hardin felt that way |
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The Sleuth |
Thanks for stopping by* | #2 | ||
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Posts: 53 04/14/09 11:11 AM |
and UCLA still wanted him until he decided that he wanted to go to SC.
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Fade |
We know this much of Floyd | #4 | ||
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Posts: 1262 04/14/09 12:29 PM |
"Maybe Tim Floyd can light a fire under him and motivate him, since nobody else apparently has been able to."
One thing is certain under Floyd - he either plays hard or he's not going to play. I hope he gets it together. It would be nice to see him use this negative press to motivate himself. |
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falvidre |
The press coverage on Renardo reminds me of | #5 | ||
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Posts: 1246 04/14/09 12:57 PM |
That of OJ. As soon as he selected USC the negative reports started. In fact the Bruin board reports that our program is imploading. Yeah, yeah I know, I know,
Hill is gone so we should throw ourselves down on the ground and cry. One of our prospective kids gets added to a squad late and doesn't play well (sounded
like a kid named Cousins didn't do well either), and we are to suppose that he's going to be a problem kid. Two ways to look at life kids. The sky is
falling and we're waiting for a rock to kill us or geeze louise, I've survived another day, might as well enjoy the crap out of life. Trust me, it will
be a blast next year.
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ChaseinManhattan |
O.J. and Sidney are different kids | #6 | ||
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Posts: 1476 04/14/09 1:33 PM |
The Bruins sent batsh!t crazy over O.J. It just shocked the f_(k out of them.
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ChaseinManhattan |
"Stepheson will not be transferring to USC, as will be made public in the near future" | #7 | ||
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Posts: 1476 04/14/09 1:42 PM |
signed, PHS1.
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Posts: 874 04/14/09 1:49 PM |
There have been negative reports about Sidney way before he committed to SC.
OJ received undeserved negative press (got the Kobe treatment). No one could ever question his desire to win or his on the court effort. He was one of the hardest workers out there. It really seemed his character issues were more rumors than substance. He was also never an academic risk based on his 29 ACT score. There are real negatives about Sidney that have been well documented for the last 3 years. Based on some of the games I have seen him play and especially that Hoop Summit game, I hope Floyd can change him because if not, he won't have any impact next year. |
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ChaseinManhattan |
you neglected to post the great evaluation of UCLA recruit Mike Moser from the same article | #9 | ||
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Posts: 1476 04/14/09 1:51 PM |
Mike Moser -- 0 pts, 0-3 fg, 0-2 3p
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Fade |
Totally different | #10 | ||
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Posts: 1262 04/14/09 2:09 PM |
OJ was always in great shape and always played his a$$ off - in every tournament. There were some pretty lame reports that commented on his character but never
challenged his work ethic etc. The reports on Sidney are fairly universal - he's passionless, lazy, out of shape and has a bad attitude. All I can say is
if people were writing that about me I'd be pissed and I'd do whatever I had to do to prove them wrong.
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PHS1 |
You got me on that one. | #11 | ||
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Posts: 70 04/14/09 2:13 PM |
A source who would know indicated to me that Alex basically committed privately on a visit to UCLA soon after requesting and receiving a release from North
Carolina. But what I failed to factor in is that Alex essentially made similar commitments at every school he visited while being re-recruited as a transfer,
which is why Arizona State was equally confident that they were going to land him the second time around.
A report that Renardo Sidney has ostensibly regressed in his conditioning and commitment to the game is news that I did not see anywhere else on this site which some Trojan fans may be interested in. As to your reference to Mike Moser, the kid's scouting report is included in the article I linked and is not one I would imagine should be flagged for USC fans. As for Moser as a prospect, nobody I know who has seen him believes his approach has regressed, including the USC coaches who desperately wanted to sign him. Sidney clearly is a high-risk/high-reward signing for USC that Trojan fans will be interested in monitoring closely.
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Posts: 1476 04/14/09 2:25 PM |
PHS1 wrote:The point is that Howland wanted to sign both of these kids....just like Floyd. Yet, you only come over to this site -- in a drive-by fashion -- to post random, snarky pieces of info deragatory to SC hoops and/or its players. Which of us do you see doing that on BRO? |
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PHS1 |
Well... | #13 | ||
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Posts: 70 04/14/09 2:41 PM |
First of all, Ben Howland did not end up wanting to sign Renardo Sidney when all was said and done, though he certainly went back-and-forth on the matter.
While Howland thought Sidney was a tremendous prospect and the kid's father told sources (including Jeff Goodman of Fox Sports) when their press conference
at Fairfax was first announced that UCLA was going to be the school, the two parties could not come to a final understanding and that is when USC got him.
Anyone who claims differently and that a UCLA scholarship offer was still on the table simply does not know the truth of what went down.
I think Sleuth does a great job covering USC men's basketball, and so as a UCLA and Pac-10 fan when I have seen bona fide news regarding Trojan hoops that is not on here - both good (that USC was doing well with Stepheson and Moser) and bad (that Floyd might bolt to Arizona and that Sidney's approach to the game has regressed) - I post it for USC fans who want to know what is going on and don't care where it comes from. If I wanted to do drive-by stuff and post cheap shots I would be posting about NCAA investigations...so that contention is unfair. |
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Posts: 7 04/14/09 2:52 PM |
sleuth does do a very good job. that's why i come here. penrose on the other hand ...
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Posts: 5667 04/14/09 2:53 PM |
Thanks, but we don't need you posting articles about SC on this site, good or bad.
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Posts: 1476 04/14/09 3:08 PM |
PHS1 wrote:I hope you don't honestly believe that it was Howland's decision, and not the UCLA Administration's, to not offer Sidney a scholarship. If Howland had his druthers, Sidney would be in a UCLA uniform next season. |
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Posts: 7 04/14/09 3:13 PM |
howland wanted sidney to the bitter end. guerrero said no. at least that's how it appeared to me. totally agree with you on that chase.
disagree on what some people have said though, that sidney picked usc over ucla. |
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SMWAS |
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Posts: 197 04/14/09 3:41 PM |
PHS1, if you TRULY knew everything involved in ucla's recruitment of Sindey, you wouldn't even want to be touching this topic on a message board. I
know you think you have the best possible sources on the planet for all things ucla, but if you don't know what I am talking about, then you don't.
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Posts: 194 04/14/09 5:29 PM |
yeah, OJ was a "problem" and so was Washington according to the know it alls.
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Pasadena Trojan |
A lot of determination, sweat, and weight training will cure all | #20 | ||
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Posts: 149 04/16/09 9:24 AM |
ailments, if any. When Sydney shows up to his first practice he is going to be amazed on how fast the game is. He will have to determine if he wants to put
that much effort into it. I am sure coach will "coax" him a little bit. After he gets his feet wet and realizes he can play, then he will grow from
there.
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